Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 120

01/24/2007 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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01:06:43 PM Start
01:07:51 PM Confirmation Hearing(s)|| Select Committee on Legislative Ethics
01:46:34 PM HB69
02:01:50 PM HB76
02:39:23 PM HB7
02:40:04 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Confirmation Hearings: TELECONFERENCED
Select Committee on Legislative Ethics -
Gary J. Turner
Ann Rabinowitz
H. Conner Thomas
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
+= HB 69 NOTIFY CRIME VICTIM OF EXECUTIVE CLEMENCY TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 69(JUD) Out of Committee
+= HB 76 CIVIL LEGAL SERVICES FUND TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 76(JUD) Out of Committee
*+ HB 7 FALSE CALLER IDENTIFICATION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
<Bill Held Over from 11/22/07>
HB 76 - CIVIL LEGAL SERVICES FUND                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:01:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 76, "An Act  relating to the creation  of a civil                                                               
legal services  fund."   [Before the  committee was  the proposed                                                               
committee  substitute  (CS)  for   HB  76,  Version  25-LS0349\C,                                                               
Bailey,  1/17/07, which  had been  adopted as  the work  draft on                                                               
1/22/07.]                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:04:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM  moved to  adopt the  proposed committee                                                               
substitute (CS) for HB 76, Version 25-LS0349\E, Bailey, 1/23/07.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  objected for  the purpose  of receiving                                                               
an explanation of the changes made in Version E.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:05:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EMILY  STANCLIFF,  Staff  to Representative  Jay  Ramras,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  relayed on  behalf of  Representative Ramras,                                                               
one the prime  sponsors of HB 76, that language  on page 1, lines                                                               
8-9, of Version E now says  in part, "may appropriate to the fund                                                               
from the amount.  This change  - the addition of the word, "from"                                                               
-  is  intended  to   address  Representative  Coghill's  concern                                                               
regarding  allowing the  legislature to  determine what  [amount]                                                               
would be appropriated.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  said  that  he  won't  object  to  the                                                               
adoption  of  Version E,  although  grammatically  the intent  is                                                               
still  not clear.    He suggested  that  perhaps better  language                                                               
could be drafted.  [This  was treated as Representative Gruenberg                                                               
withdrawing his objection to the adoption  of Version E as a work                                                               
draft.]                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS announced that Version E was before the committee.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG opined  that if  the goal  of inserting                                                               
the word "from"  is to allow appropriation of some,  but not all,                                                               
of  the amount  deposited into  the  general fund  (GF) under  AS                                                               
09.17.020(j), the new language doesn't exactly say that.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL concurred  that he wanted to  be sure that                                                               
the language  doesn't mandate appropriation of  the entire amount                                                               
deposited under AS 09.17.020(j).                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG suggested  that  that  point should  be                                                               
clarified as the legislation moves through the process.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:08:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDY  HARRINGTON,  Executive   Director,  Alaska  Legal  Services                                                               
Corporation  (ALSC), in  response to  a question,  explained that                                                               
there are  other agencies  that provide  civil legal  services to                                                               
domestic  violence victims,  immigrants,  and other  populations,                                                               
though those agencies don't  have income qualification guidelines                                                               
like the ALSC and the Alaska Pro Bono Program, Inc (APBP).                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL surmised,  then, that  the ALSC  would be                                                               
the  primary  recipient  of  the   funds  provided  for  in  this                                                               
legislation unless an  organization very similar to  the ALSC was                                                               
established.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARRINGTON  replied yes.   In response to  further questions,                                                               
he assured the  committee that the legislature  will maintain its                                                               
authority to  appropriate funds from year-to-year,  and explained                                                               
that  formerly   the  ALSC   received  appropriations   from  the                                                               
legislature but when times were tight,  it became all too easy to                                                               
reduce  the ALSC's  appropriation.   This  legislation would  tie                                                               
ALSC  funding  from  the  state  directly  to  a  revenue  stream                                                               
produced by the civil court  system.  Mr. Harrington acknowledged                                                               
that  one   legislature  can't  bind  future   legislatures,  but                                                               
expressed  hope that  future  legislatures  will view  [continued                                                               
funding] as making  sense and so maintain  a [funding] commitment                                                               
to the ALSC.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:13:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
THERESA OBERMEYER relayed  that she has interfaced  with the ALSC                                                               
over many years.   She said that the manner in  which the ALSC is                                                               
organized  in  Alaska  has  motivated  her  greatly  because  the                                                               
mission of  the ALSC  is to  serve the  indigent.   Ms. Obermeyer                                                               
mentioned that she  sent the House and  Senate Judiciary Standing                                                               
Committees  for review  a one-page  document and  two attachments                                                               
regarding reciprocity.   On the issue  of HB 76, she  offered her                                                               
understanding that  although this legislation won't  mandate that                                                               
funding be provided to the ALSC,  it does [establish] a fund that                                                               
can be used  to provide such funding.  Ms.  Obermeyer offered her                                                               
belief that  at least half  of the  attorneys at the  ALSC didn't                                                               
have  to take  a written  bar exam  in Alaska  because they  were                                                               
granted permission  to practice law  under Rule 43 of  the Alaska                                                               
Bar Rules,  characterized that as  favoritism on the part  of the                                                               
[Alaska Bar  Association], and spoke a  bit more on the  issue of                                                               
reciprocity.   In  conclusion  she emphasized  the  need to  help                                                               
serve the poor and care about Alaskans across the board.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:23:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAREN  ROBINSON, Lobbyist  for Alaska  Women's Lobby,  noted that                                                               
the  committee should  have received  a  written position  paper.                                                               
Ms.  Robinson,  noting  that she  is  speaking  from  experience,                                                               
emphasized the  importance of  the services  provided by  ALSC to                                                               
victims [of  domestic violence]  and other  people of  the state.                                                               
She recalled when  she was director of the Aiding  Women in Abuse                                                               
and Rape  Emergencies (AWARE  Inc.) shelter  in Juneau,  and said                                                               
that not a day went by  in which there wasn't an interaction with                                                               
the ALSC,  adding that those interactions  were important whether                                                               
they  pertained to  housing needs,  potential separation  from an                                                               
abusive  spouse,  child custody,  or  divorce  and child  support                                                               
issues.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. ROBINSON then  reminded the committee of the  great work done                                                               
by  Sarah Felix,  who helped  pen many  of the  laws on  domestic                                                               
violence in  Alaska.   In particular,  Ms. Robinson  relayed, Ms.                                                               
Felix worked  on legislation pertaining to  domestic violence and                                                               
protective orders.   Ms. Robinson mentioned  the Robert Hickerson                                                               
Partners in  Justice Campaign, which  collects money to  help the                                                               
less  fortunate in  Alaska obtain  the legal  services that  they                                                               
need.  She  emphasized the difficulty experienced  when one needs                                                               
legal assistance but cannot [afford] it.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. ROBINSON recounted her personal  experience in which she left                                                               
a seriously  abusive situation and  filed for her own  divorce in                                                               
Texas where there  was no service for her to  receive legal help.                                                               
Due  to that  lack  of  help, she  inadvertently  failed to  file                                                               
paperwork regarding  child support and  so wasn't able  to obtain                                                               
that  financial  assistance.    The  ALSC  can  ensure  that  all                                                               
necessary paperwork is  filed in a timely fashion  so that others                                                               
don't find  themselves in a  similar situation.  In  closing, Ms.                                                               
Robinson stated  that the Alaska Women's  Lobby strongly supports                                                               
HB 76 and wants  to ensure that the ALSC will  be funded both now                                                               
and in the future.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:30:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTINE PATE,  Mentoring Attorney,  Alaska Network  on Domestic                                                               
Violence & Sexual Assault (ANDVSA),  explained that the ANDVSA is                                                               
a statewide coalition of 19  domestic violence and sexual assault                                                               
programs across  Alaska.  She  further explained that one  of her                                                               
primary  functions  is running  a  direct,  civil legal  services                                                               
program whereby  victims of domestic violence  and sexual assault                                                               
can  obtained pro  bono  attorneys  for civil  cases.   Ms.  Pate                                                               
indicated her support  for HB 76 and echoed comments  made by Ms.                                                               
Robinson.  She then thanked  the Alaska State Legislature for the                                                               
past wisdom  it has shown  in making  laws to benefit  victims of                                                               
domestic violence and sexual assault.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. PATE  opined that HB  76 is  a critical piece  of legislation                                                               
that will  help end  domestic violence in  Alaska, noting  that a                                                               
few years ago two economists  performed a study which showed that                                                               
legal services  are the most  effective means of  ending violence                                                               
in victims'  lives.  When  a victim  makes the decision  to leave                                                               
the batterer, it's  just the beginning of the  journey for safety                                                               
for that individual  and that individual's children;  in order to                                                               
remain  safe,   the  individual  will  need   several  resources,                                                               
including economic  support for the family,  protection orders to                                                               
maintain physical safety, custody  orders granting custody of the                                                               
children, and permanent housing, and  only an attorney can assist                                                               
in acquiring the aforementioned services.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PATE  informed the  committee  that  every year,  the  legal                                                               
advocacy project  at ANDVSA surveys  its member programs  and the                                                               
legal  advocates who  work with  the victims.   Every  year, that                                                               
group  reports that  the most  critical need  is for  civil legal                                                               
services  for victims  of domestic  violence and  sexual assault.                                                               
Although the  ANDVSA helps with  the aforementioned  by providing                                                               
pro bono attorneys,  only a limited number of  attorneys can take                                                               
on  such work  and the  Alaska Bar  Association (ABA)  is already                                                               
doing  its fair  share.    The ALSC  is  the  only other  program                                                               
besides  the  ANDVSA  [helping]   domestic  violence  and  sexual                                                               
assault victims.   Since the creation  of the ANDVSA in  1999, it                                                               
has received close to 1,500  requests for assistance but has only                                                               
been able to serve approximately 40  percent of those cases.  For                                                               
those victims  who don't receive  help, the individual  goes into                                                               
court alone,  may lose custody  of the children,  doesn't receive                                                               
the  necessary  financial help,  and  may  be  placed in  a  more                                                               
physically unsafe situation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PATE said  that ultimately,  because of  the aforementioned,                                                               
the victim may  decide that the safest and best  course of action                                                               
is to return to the abuser  in order to receive financial support                                                               
and  at least  monitor interactions  between the  abuser and  the                                                               
children.   More  devastating,  she opined,  is  that people  are                                                               
losing faith  when they don't  have attorneys.  Victims  are told                                                               
that if they  leave their abuser, they will  receive help through                                                               
support services.  However, the  critical piece of legal services                                                               
isn't  [always]  available to  help  victims  and their  families                                                               
remain safe.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PATE characterized  this situation as a  crisis because needy                                                               
Alaskans  aren't receiving  the help  necessary to  protect their                                                               
basic needs and  rights.  Moreover, if the abuser  is involved in                                                               
a criminal case,  the abuser is entitled  to legal representation                                                               
while the  victim in  a civil  case is not.   Ms.  Pate mentioned                                                               
that at one  time she was an  attorney for the ALSC  and thus has                                                               
an enormous  amount of respect  for the ALSC  and its work.   Ms.                                                               
Pate concluded by noting her support of HB 76.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS,  upon  determining  that no  one  else  wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony on HB 76.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:36:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG made  a motion to adopt  Amendment 1, to                                                               
delete from page 1, line 8,  the word, "from" and replace it with                                                               
the  words,  "all  or  part  of".    There  being  no  objection,                                                               
Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:37:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN  moved  to  report  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute (CS) for HB 76,  Version 25-LS0349\E, Bailey, 1/23/07,                                                               
as amended, out of committee  with individual recommendations and                                                               
the accompanying zero fiscal note.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL  objected   and  expressed  concern  with                                                               
regard to the  creation of the civil legal  services fund because                                                               
although [technically] it isn't  a dedicated fund, the discussion                                                               
has indicated that [many will view  it as such].  He then removed                                                               
his objection.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS announced,  then,  that CSHB  76(JUD) was  reported                                                               
from the House Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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